"It was through Ivan that I first met Paul. So one day when we were playing in Woolton, he brought him along. We can both remember it quite well. The Quarry Men were playing on a raised platform and there was a good crowd because it was a warm , sunny day(JL1963). We talked after the show and I saw he had talent. He was playing quitar backstage, doing 'Twenty Flight Rock' by Eddie Cochran(JL1980). I was very impressed by Paul playing 'Twenty Flight Rock'. He could obviously play the quitar. I half thought to myself, 'He's as good as me.' I'd been kingpin up until then. Now I thought, 'If I take him on, what will happen?' It went through my head that I'd have to keep him in line if I let him join. But he was good, so he was worth having. He also looked like Elvis. I dug him(JL1967). Was it better to have a guy who was better than the people I had in? To make the group stronger, or to let me be stronger? Instead of going for the individual thing we went for the strongest format-equals (JL1970). I turned round to him right then on first meeting and said 'Do you want to join the group?' And he said 'yes' the next day as I recall it (JL1980)."








"Ivan Vaughan was a friend of mine born on exactly the same day as me. It was 6th July, 1957 and we both were 15 years old. I remember coming into the fete; there was a coconut shy overhere and the hoopla over there, and all the usual things-and there was a band playing on a platform with a small audience in front of them. We headed to the stage first because as teenagers we were interested in music. There was a guy up on the platform with curly, blondish hair, wearing a checkered shirt-looking pretty good and quite fashionable-singing a song that I loved: the Del-Vikings 'Come Go With Me'. He didn't know the words, but it didn't matter as none of us knew the words either. There's a little refrain that goes 'Come little darlin, come and go with me, I love you darling.' John was singing 'Down, down, down to the pentitiary.' He was filling in with blues lines, I thought that was good, and he was singing well. I wandered around the fair and then Ivan and I went backstage. The band was getting ready to move indoors, into the church hall for the evening show. There was some beer being drunk. Really, I was too young for that then, but, 'Sure I'll have a sip.' We went to the evening show and that was good, although a fight almost broke out. I was wondering what I had got myself into. I had only come over for the afternoon and now I was in Mafia land. But it all worked out fine, and I got on the piano. John was a little afternoon-pissed, leaning over my shoulder breathing boozily. We were all a little sloshed. I thought 'Bloody hell, who's this?' But he was enjoying what I was playing. Then I played guitar-upside down. I did 'Twenty Flight Rock', and knew all the words. The Quarry Men were so knocked out that I actually knew and could sing 'Twenty Flight Rock'. That's what got me into the Beatles. I often pedalled around Woolton at that time, going to see Ivan. I lived a bike ride away in Allerton. Pete Shotton, who was in The Quarry Men, was cycling around too, and we met by chance. Pete was a close friend of John's. He said, 'Hey, Paul, it was good the other day, and we've been having a talk, would you like to join the group?' I said 'I'll have to think about it.' But I was quite excited by the offer, so-through Ivan-I agreed to join (PM)."






































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